Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Get ready to hear real, unfiltered conversations about entrepreneurship, the highs, the lows, and everything in between.

Hosted by Ms Cat and LiShon, Both Sides of the Check is your go-to podcast for everything you need to know about starting, running, and scaling your business.

What’s to expect:

Real Talk: The struggles and victories that come with building a business, from people who’ve been in the trenches.

Actionable Tips: Strategies and advice that you can use right now to grow your business.

Entrepreneurial Insights: How to navigate the tough decisions, manage risk, and build lasting success.

Whether you’re just starting out or looking to level up, we’re sharing the truth behind entrepreneurship — no fluff.

Both Sides of the Check Podcast!

Get ready to hear real, unfiltered conversations about entrepreneurship, the highs, the lows, and everything in between.

Hosted by Ms Cat and Lishon, Both Sides of the Check is your go-to podcast for everything you need to know about starting, running, and scaling your business.

What to expect:

Real Talk: The struggles and victories that come with building a business, from people who’ve been in the trenches.

Actionable Tips: Strategies and advice that you can use right now to grow your business.

Entrepreneurial Insights: How to navigate the tough decisions, manage risk, and build lasting success.

Whether you’re just starting out or looking to level up, we’re sharing the truth behind entrepreneurship — no fluff.

Episode 1

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 1

Introducing Ms Cat & LiShon – Check Writers vs. Check Cashers

Welcome to the very first episode of Both Sides of the Check—where unfiltered meets unstoppable.

We’re setting the tone with the concept of Check Writers vs. Check Cashers—and trust us, it’s a whole mindset shift.

Episode 1

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 1

Introducing Ms Cat & LiShon – Check Writers vs. Check Cashers

Welcome to the very first episode of Both Sides of the Check—where unfiltered meets unstoppable.

We’re setting the tone with the concept of Check Writers vs. Check Cashers—and trust us, it’s a whole mindset shift.

Episode 2

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 2

Risk Vs. Peace - How Much Risk is TOO Much?

Let’s be real—entrepreneurship will test you.

In this episode, Ms Cat & LiShon dive into the raw truth about risk—when to take it, when to fall back, and how to decide what’s really worth it. They open up about their journey of stepping into brick-and-mortar spaces, what they gained, what it cost, and what they learned the hard way.

We’re not here to glamorize struggle. We’re here to remind you: there is no success without sacrifice, but there's no reward worth your peace.

So the question is—how much are YOU willing to risk for the life you say you want? And more importantly… is it aligned with your values or just hype?

Episode 2

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 2

Risk Vs. Peace - How Much Risk is TOO Much?

Let’s be real—entrepreneurship will test you. In this episode, Ms Cat & LiShon dive into the raw truth about risk—when to take it, when to fall back, and how to decide what’s really worth it. They open up about their journey of stepping into brick-and-mortar spaces, what they gained, what it cost, and what they learned the hard way.

We’re not here to glamorize struggle. We’re here to remind you: there is no success without sacrifice, but there's no reward worth your peace.

So the question is—how much are YOU willing to risk for the life you say you want? And more importantly… is it aligned with your values or just hype?

Episode 3

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 3

You Want a Boss… Until You Date One!

Let’s talk about it. Everybody says they want a boss… until they realize what that really means.

In this episode, Ms Cat & LiShon peel back the curtain on what it’s like dating as full-time entrepreneurs. The long hours. The missed calls. The vision that don’t clock out. They’re asking the real question: can someone who’s used to getting paid on Fridays handle someone who’s building a legacy 24/7?

Because let’s be clear—they're not giving up the grind for love. If love can’t keep up with the mission, it’s just a distraction.

Episode 3

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 3

You Want a Boss… Until You Date One!

Let’s talk about it. Everybody says they want a boss… until they realize what that really means.

In this episode, Ms Cat & LiShon peel back the curtain on what it’s like dating as full-time entrepreneurs. The long hours. The missed calls. The vision that don’t clock out. They’re asking the real question: can someone who’s used to getting paid on Fridays handle someone who’s building a legacy 24/7?

Because let’s be clear—they're not giving up the grind for love. If love can’t keep up with the mission, it’s just a distraction.

Episode 4

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 4

For the Culture or For the Coin? Let’s Talk 'Black-Owned' Business.

In this episode, Ms Cat & LiShon unpack the weight, the pride, and the pressure behind the label “Black-owned.” What started as a badge of honor—something to uplift and represent—can sometimes feel like a box that limits how far we’re “allowed” to grow.

Are we building for culture, for currency, or both? And does that label help us… or hold us back?

This is a real, layered convo about identity, ownership, audience, and impact. At the end of the day, the business is Black-owned—but is that the only story we get to tell?

Episode 5

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 5

Friends, Family, and the Fine Print of Support

Ms Cat & LiShon dive into the complexities of support, success, and sustainability—especially when it comes to doing business with your own people.

We talk about the double-edged sword of “buying Black”: the love, the loyalty, but also the expectations, entitlement, and sometimes the lack of grace extended to Black entrepreneurs.

What does it mean when folks cheer you on until you start charging what you’re worth? Why do we sometimes expect discounts from the very businesses we claim to champion?

This episode is an honest look at the mindset behind money, value, and community. Are we supporting out of habit—or truly investing in one another's elevation?

Episode 6

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 6

They Want Your Value, But Not Your Price

Let’s talk about it. You show up with excellence. You bring the skills, the results, the receipts. But the moment you drop your price, here come the negotiations. Suddenly, everybody’s on a budget. Everybody’s got a cousin who “can do it cheaper.” But guess what? Cheaper doesn’t come with your mind. Your experience. Your value.

In this episode, we’re breaking down the hard truth: people will applaud your greatness until it’s time to compensate it. We’re talking about the disrespect that shows up in discounts, and how to hold the line on your worth—especially in an economy that’s out here testing everybody’s confidence.

This one’s for the entrepreneur who’s tired of the back-and-forth. For the consultant who's been told, “You’re exactly what we need… but can you do it for half?” Nah. We’re not shrinking to make other people comfortable. Not this season. Press play and get reminded why your price is your price—for a reason.

Episode 7

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 7

Dress How You Want to Be Addressed

Let’s get real: At what point in business does it stop being about the clothes… and start being about the confidence behind them? We’re talking about the myth that success has a dress code. Because some of the wealthiest people in the game? No logos, no loud outfits—just quiet power. Meanwhile, some folks are suited up, but still struggling to close a $1K deal.

This episode dives into the mindset behind the material. Is it really about the fit—or are you still dressing for approval instead of impact? Because listen… You can wear designer head to toe and still be taken lightly if your energy doesn’t match your ambition.

Let’s talk about showing up, standing out, and owning your presence—labels or not.

Episode 4

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 4

For the Culture or For the Coin? Let’s Talk 'Black-Owned' Business.

In this episode, Ms Cat & LiShon unpack the weight, the pride, and the pressure behind the label “Black-owned.” What started as a badge of honor—something to uplift and represent—can sometimes feel like a box that limits how far we’re “allowed” to grow.

Are we building for culture, for currency, or both? And does that label help us… or hold us back?

This is a real, layered convo about identity, ownership, audience, and impact. At the end of the day, the business is Black-owned—but is that the only story we get to tell?

Episode 5

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 5

Friends, Family, and the Fine Print of Support

Ms Cat & LiShon dive into the complexities of support, success, and sustainability—especially when it comes to doing business with your own people.

We talk about the double-edged sword of “buying Black”: the love, the loyalty, but also the expectations, entitlement, and sometimes the lack of grace extended to Black entrepreneurs.

What does it mean when folks cheer you on until you start charging what you’re worth? Why do we sometimes expect discounts from the very businesses we claim to champion?

This episode is an honest look at the mindset behind money, value, and community.Are we supporting out of habit—or truly investing in one another's elevation?

Episode 6

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 6

They Want Your Value, But Not Your Price

Let’s talk about it. You show up with excellence. You bring the skills, the results, the receipts. But the moment you drop your price, here come the negotiations. Suddenly, everybody’s on a budget. Everybody’s got a cousin who “can do it cheaper.” But guess what? Cheaper doesn’t come with your mind. Your experience. Your value.

In this episode, we’re breaking down the hard truth: people will applaud your greatness until it’s time to compensate it. We’re talking about the disrespect that shows up in discounts, and how to hold the line on your worth—especially in an economy that’s out here testing everybody’s confidence.

This one’s for the entrepreneur who’s tired of the back-and-forth. For the consultant who's been told, “You’re exactly what we need… but can you do it for half?” Nah. We’re not shrinking to make other people comfortable. Not this season. Press play and get reminded why your price is your price—for a reason.

Episode 7

Both Sides of the Check Podcast

Episode 7

Dress How You Want to Be Addressed

Let’s get real: At what point in business does it stop being about the clothes… and start being about the confidence behind them? We’re talking about the myth that success has a dress code. Because some of the wealthiest people in the game? No logos, no loud outfits—just quiet power. Meanwhile, some folks are suited up, but still struggling to close a $1K deal.

This episode dives into the mindset behind the material. Is it really about the fit—or are you still dressing for approval instead of impact? Because listen… You can wear designer head to toe and still be taken lightly if your energy doesn’t match your ambition.

Let’s talk about showing up, standing out, and owning your presence—labels or not.